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  How do you handle JWs interacting with your children?

  by Nosferatu in

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  this has been on my mind lately.

  i'll probably end up having kids in the near future, and i would not want my mother preaching to my children.. so, i must ask, how do you handle your jw relatives who try to preach to your children?

  how do you deal with a "gift" like my book of bs?

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  Merry -
  
  
  Have you told your daughter how destructive the JW religion is? If you don't you may face losing her when she gets older -- if your mother sucks her into the LIE -- and I don't believe you want that to happen, do you?
  
  When my kids ask about their grandparent's religion I openly tell them how they are repsonsible for the deaths of millions (blood issue), how they harbr criminals(child molestation), and how they destroy families (shunning), not to mention how they don't get to enjoy the holidays or birthdays like we do. I've even gone so far as to explain why they are a cult and what the characteristics of a cult is. The last thing I want is to lose my kids to those magazine peddling mindless zombies.
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  Disfellowshipped at 85!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
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  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

  backup thread:.

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

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  Skally -
  
  At least there's a couple of us here who understand the mechanics of honest reality. No Opinions doesn't want to be painted with your wide paint brush and he definately doesnt like the blood red paint I bring to the table. Pretty soon he'll object to the brand of paint thinner we use.
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  Disfellowshipped at 85!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

  backup thread:.

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

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  Thanks for the kind words Panda, and don't worry, I won't keep silent if there's something worth saying.
  
  The one thing that sticks out (at least to me) about this old guy is how we are supposed to feel sorry for him now that he's alone. I'm sure it was tough for him to lose his wife, but suicide shows how deeply entrenched in the LIE they both must have been. And, I'm sure they didn't bat an eye when someone else was disfellowshipped, shunned, abused, or died as a result of the blood issue. I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who's hand gets bitten by the dog they've been feeding.
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  I've just discovered something cuz I'm smart.

  by gumby in

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  i noticed the names on the page that shows the thread titles, thread author, and last poster, ( whatever that page is called) has some names starting with capital letters, and some not.

  does changing our name on our profile page alter that?

  i suppose i could try it and see if it works........ couldn't i now?.

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  Devils Advocate

  Guys and or Gals, I don't see any smiley face. I see a lightbulb, a piece of paper icon, two thumbs, an "x", an "!", two balloons with "i" and "?", a green balloon with a "?", and a blue "i"......but no smiley face. Where is the smiley fae supposed to be? Maybe my brother the elder broke into my home and stole the darn thing!
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  I've just discovered something cuz I'm smart.

  by gumby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i noticed the names on the page that shows the thread titles, thread author, and last poster, ( whatever that page is called) has some names starting with capital letters, and some not.

  does changing our name on our profile page alter that?

  i suppose i could try it and see if it works........ couldn't i now?.

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  Devils Advocate

  I have a question for all you smart people. I'm dumb so pardon my ignorance, please?
  
  How do you cut and copy someone else's thread and post it in yours -- w/yeloow highlighted around it? I can't do it. I just can't do it!
  
  Oh, and how do you put a picture in your message like you guys do? I'm gonna go bang my head against the wall now...
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  Disfellowshipped at 85!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

  backup thread:.

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

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  Devils Advocate

  What is a Farkel? Sounds like the cross between a salad tong and a late night swim.
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  How do you handle JWs interacting with your children?

  by Nosferatu in

  1. social
  2. family

  this has been on my mind lately.

  i'll probably end up having kids in the near future, and i would not want my mother preaching to my children.. so, i must ask, how do you handle your jw relatives who try to preach to your children?

  how do you deal with a "gift" like my book of bs?

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  Devils Advocate

  Gypsy --
  
  You couldn't be more right! Conditional Love is like artifcial sweetner. It might taste good for a moment or two but there's that god-awful aftertaste that just won't go away.
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  Disfellowshipped at 85!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

  backup thread:.

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

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  NO Apologies -
  
  Your ad hominen attacks abound. Too bad you can't back up your words with anything other than personal attacks. But then, I guess old JW tactics are a diffucult skin to shed, arent they, oh holy of holies?
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  Were you illegally disfellowshipped?

  by hubert in

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  based on "official" bible based doctrine, were you "illegally disfellowshipped?

  i have been reading many threads on disfellowsipping, and it makes me wonder if there were many who were disassociated, or thrown out of the org.

  for reasons other than what the watchtower officially teaches?

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  Legally speaking, if a dub has been disfellowshippped w/o the congregation following the official written Brooklyn protocals, that congregation can be sued in a civil court of law. There have been instances where this sort of thing has happened although few in number.
  
  Only reason I know of this is due to a discussion I had with my brother (who is an elder) a few years back. At the time he was angry at the congregation and, in his time of weakness, chose to use apostate me as his sounding board. Actually it goes quite deeper than that but it would take too long to describe the whole discussion. But in some cases, the chickens do come home to roost.
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  Disfellowshipped at 85!

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

  backup thread:.

  http://members.aol.com:/wtstudies/wts1/wts1.htm .

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  Devils Advocate

  Bitter? Definately. You would be too if you lost your family to the LIE.
  
  Twisted? Definately not. Judgemental -- yes. But my logic is no more twisted than that of others who have seen the beast face to face. I just don't cut the JW's any slack. And why should I? All they do is foster the destruction of close knit families (read: shunning) cause death (read: blood issue) and harbor fugitives (read: child molestation).
  
  It may be a hardlined approach but so is the WT's.
  Patton didn't defeat the Germans by sending them candy kisses now did he?